The Closing of the Athenian Academy
In 529 AD Damascius, the last head of the Academy in Athens, closed down the philosophical school and, with several fellow scholars, went into exile in Persia. This is often portrayed as the final act in “the closing of the western mind” and the beginning of “the darkening age”; the symbolic closing of an institution founded by Plato himself almost a millennium earlier. It is regularly portrayed in popular writing and anti-theist polemic as the end of ancient science and rationalism in the west and the beginning of a one thousand year medieval dark age. But is this true? What was the Academy and why did it close? And what does this tell us about Christianity and intellectual history?
Dan Jones is a British writer of popular history for the general reader and the author of best-selling works such as The Plantagenets: The Kings Who Made England (HarperPress, 2012) and Magna Carta: The Making and Legacy of the Great Charter (Head of Zeus, 2014). Given his background in mainly later medieval English history, his more recent book – Powers and Thrones: A New History of the Middle Ages (Head of Zeus, 2021) – could be said to have been rather ambitious, given its much wider scope. On the whole it was well-received by reviewers, though they tend to be non-historians. No historian can be a specialist in all periods or even all centuries within a given period and all writers can have their biases. So, unfortunately, in his discussion of the end of pagan antiquity and the rise of the Christianity of the Later Roman Empire in Powers and Thrones, Jones appears to decided to take a very particular line.
In 2017 Jones gave newspaper arts journalist Catherine Nixey a glowing pre-publication review for her notorious book The Darkening Age: The Christian Destruction of the Classical World, (Macmillan, 2017), which featured prominently on the book’s cover and in its publicity material. Jones announced enthusiastically that “Nixey’s debut challenges our whole understanding of Christianity’s earliest years and the medieval society that followed” and declared her “a formidable classicist and historian”. Actual experts in the relevant period and subject matter, on the other hand, were rather less than impressed with Nixey’s biased and polemical work, with Oxford Classicist Peter Thonemann pointing to her reliance on “quite a bit of nifty footwork” and Dame Averil Cameron calling it “overstated and unbalanced” and “a travesty” (see “Review – Catherine Nixey ‘The Darkening Age'” for my full critique of Nixey’s rather terrible book).
So perhaps Jones was depending on Nixey when he turned his attention to the subject of Christian responses to Classical philosophy and learning while writing Power and Thrones. He certainly argues along similar lines. Writing of the anti-pagan legislation of the emperor Justinian I (482-565), Jones puts emphasis on what he regards as a key event:
Among the rash of laws passed in the first decade of Justinian’s reign was a decree that pagans were not allowed to teach students. In itself this did not stand out from the other collections of anti-pagan legislation collected in Justinian’s law codes. But its effect on one important institution was soon made clear. John Malalas spelled out what it meant. In an entry covering the year 529, he wrote, “the emperor issued a decree and sent it to Athens ordering that no-one should teach philosophy nor interpret the laws.”
Another chronicler, Agathius, reported that the last headmaster of the Athens school was forced to leave not only the school and the city, but the empire itself. (In 531 he and several of his fellow teachers fled to Persia.) And this was more than mere relocation. In effect, Justinian’s diktat had spelled the end for the famous school in the ancient Greek capital – the city of Plato and Aristotle – where students had absorbed the insights of classical philosophy and natural science for generations.
Jones does not explicitly overstate the significance of this event, but he chooses his words carefully while working hard to make his reader understand that the closure of this Athenian school represented the end of something important:
The closure of the Athens school was important. It did not kill at a stroke all non-Christian learning in the eastern empire. Nor did it immediately throw up an intellectual wall between the classical age and the dawning era of Christian hegemony in Europe and the west. But it was both significant and symbolic.
He goes on to emphasise “scholarship in Persia and other eastern parts” and their role in “preserving and transmitting copies of the works of Aristotle and other non-Christian greats”, before stressing “a self-blinkering in the Christian world” and how “the transmission of ancient learning throughout the empire began to fail.” In case his readers had not yet got the message, he concludes:
One reason that the label ‘the Dark Ages’ has proven so hard to untie from the neck of the Middle Ages is that for hundreds of years – between the sixth century and the first beginnings of the Renaissance in the late thirteenth – the scientific and rational insights of the ancient world were forgotten or suppressed in the west. This was not simply an unfortunate symptom of creeping cultural dementia. It sprang from the deliberate policies of eastern emperors like Justinian, who made it their business to hound out of their world the self-appointed but unfortunately unchristian guardians of priceless knowledge.
As already noted, this is very much the message of Catherine Nixey’s book. Indeed, she ends her work with a highly dramatic rendering of the closure of the Athenian Academy. Writing of Justinian’s law, she says:
This was this (sic) law that forced Damascius and his followers to leave Athens. It was this law that caused the Academy to close. It was this law that led the English scholar Edward Gibbon to declare that the entirity of the barbarian invasions had been less damaging to Athenian philosophy than Christianity was. This law’s consequences were described more simply by later historians. It was from this moment, they said, that a Dark Age began to descend upon Europe.
(Nixey, pp 236-7)
Nixey rhapsodises and speculates about the last days of Damascius and his Academy in Athens before describing the final end:
Damascius was, once again, creeping out of a city like a criminal. More than that. Not like a criminal: as a criminal. And one who, as the hysterical language of the laws put it, was insane, wicked and iniquitous. [The Academy’s] beautiful house was prepared for desertion. In 532, the philosophers finally left Athens. The Academy closed. True – free -Athenian philosophy was over.
(Nixey, p. 243)
Other polemicists with similar axes to grind also depict things in these dramatic terms. Charles Freeman, a retired school teacher who writes a certain kind of popular history, refers to the story briefly in his The Closing of the Western Mind: The Rise of Faith and the Fall of Reason (Pimlico, 2002):
Justinian was not content with empire-wide bans, which could easily be evaded by local elites, but aimed at specific centres of paganism. So it was now, after nine hundred years of teaching, Plato’s Academy was closed in Athens in 529 (the displaced philosophers sought refuge in Persia).
(Freeman, p. 275)
Like Nixey’s book, Freeman’s was not highly regarded by specialists, with everyone from Classicist Mary Beard to the eminent historian of science David Lindberg criticising it sharply for its distortions. But, unsurprisingly, certain anti-theistic activists have happily absorbed this story and present it as bald and plain historical fact. In December 2019 the New Atheist luminary and philosopher A.C. Grayling debated history writer Tom Holland on Justin Brierley’s Christian radio show/podcast Unbelievable on the subject of Christanity’s supposed suppression and destruction of ancient learning. Grayling insisted that Christians had waged a relentless campaign of destruction and deliberate elimination of ancient learning, though when challenged by Holland to provide evidence, responded with a blustering mixture of indignation, annoyance and frustration, because it was clear he actually had very little. But he did have the closing of the Academy in Athens. He insisted this was the culmination of a century of Christian destruction “right up to 529 AD when Justinian closed the School of Athens after 900 years of Plato’s Academy … was closed” and, he insisted, “the philosophers were driven out, there’d been a systematic attempt to try to efface that … the record and … and the remains of classical civilisation in order to impose the Christian view on it.”
So, since Edward Gibbon at least, the story of the closing of the Athenian Academy, founded by Plato and the centre of philosophy and wisdom for nine hundred years, has been presented as the end of a tradition of rationalism and learning and the beginning of one thousand years of Christian darkness. But is this true?
The Academies (plural) of Athens
The original Athenian Akademía was founded by Plato in 387 BC. It was established outside the walls of the city in an olive grove supposedly originally established by the mythic hero Academus, though it was initially a meeting of Plato’s followers at his nearby home and, later, at the Academy gymnasium. After Plato’s death in 348 BC the Academy was headed by a succession of “scholarchs” and developed a more formal structure, with distinctions between masters and pupils and an established curriculum.
But this was not the Academy that closed in 529 AD. The actual Academy of Plato came to an end when Athens became caught up in the first war between the Roman Republic and Mithridates VI Eupator of Pontus, with the Roman consul Lucius Cornelius Sulla laying siege to the city and laying waste to the Academy area in the process. The last scholarch of the Academy, Antiochus of Ascalon, returned to Athens after the war, but never re-established the Academy itself, which later writers such as Cicero describe as a ruin.
It was the latter day namesake of this original Academy that is our focus here, which makes the lamentations of Grayling and some others about it being the end “after 900 years of Plato’s Academy” total nonsense. This later Academy was established at some point at the end of the fourth century AD by an Athenian Neoplatonist named Plutarch, though probably not formalised as a school until he was succeeded by Syrianus. He was, in turn, succeeded by his pupil Proclus, who helped make the school a well-known and established institution that attracted pupils from all over the eastern Roman world. Neoplatonism was a later development of Platonic philosophy and Proclus and his successors in the Athenian Academy represented an extension of the strand of this tradition established by Iamblichus (c. 245 – c. 325). This was a highly structured system of entities and divinities that linked the material world of mortals to the ultimate, divine, monistic entity known as “the One”.
These early scholarchs of the new Academy maintained the school thanks to the political and financial support of local pagan aristocrats, despite the increasing Christianisation of the Empire and various periods of pressure and occasional low level persecution of overt paganism. These local networks of support were weakened in the later fifth century by some succession struggles within the school and the flamboyantly public pagan activity of Hegias, who was either a prominent member of the Academy or perhaps a scholarch of it. The sources agree that this weakness led to a diminishing of the school’s influence and attractiveness.
This appears to have been reversed by Damascius, who seems to have studied under Proclus and then studied in Alexandria before returning to Athens and taking up the leadership of the Academy around 515 AD. Damascius disavowed the provocative public paganism of Hegias and established a new doctrinal basis for the school based on Iamblicus, and drawing on the works of Plato and Aristotle and the mystery poem called The Chaldean Oracles. This latter text, now only known from fragments, was a highly mystical and metaphysical work and indicative of the kind of thinking and practice that was the focus of the Athenian Academy.
Contrary to much of the popular commentary on its closing, the Academy was not a centre of modern-style rationalism and scepticism, let alone a school of proto-science or anything much that a modern rationalist would recognise. Damascius’ semi-autobiographical Philosophical History, other writings members of the Academy and commentary on it show that it was, to modern thinking, a deeply mystical affair and elements of its activity would be, to us, very strange. His lost work, the Paradoxa, is known to us only by its epitome preserved in the Christian bishop Photius’ Bibliotheke, but he was unimpressed with its catalogue of divine marvels and manifestations, appearances of the dead and strange miracles (though he had no problem with similar tales if they were told by Christians). Similarly, the Academy masters practiced various forms of divination (see below), magic and theurgy, using incantations and nonsense formulae designed to commune with the higher powers. Proclus, it was said, could summon spirits and was good at rain-making spells.
Proclus ascribed the theurgical work later called On the Mysteries to Iamblicus and it makes the mysticism of the school very clear:
It is not thought that links the theurgists with the gods: else what should hinder theoretical philosophers from enjoying theurgic union with them? The case is not so. Theurgic union is attained only by the efficacy of the unspeakable acts performed in the appropriate manner, acts which are beyond all comprehension, and by the potency of the unutterable symbols which are comprehended only by the gods . . . Without intellectual effort on our part the tokens by their own virtue accomplish their proper work.
(Quoted in E.R. Dodds, The Greeks and the Irrational, Uni of California Press, 1951, p. 287)
As Dodds summarises in pithy fashion, this was “a manifesto of irrationalism, as assertion that the road to salvation is found not in reason but in ritual”. If A.C. Grayling, Nixey, Freeman or Jones were under the impression the Athenian Academy was some grove of sober rational analysis, reading of Dodd’s appendix on “Theurgy” (pp. 283-311) would disabuse them sharply. By this stage much of the use of Plato and Aristotle was allegorical interpretation of their works in service of this mystical cosmology. And even if the very public and ostentatious pagan practices of Hegias were toned down by Damascius, the Academy remained steadfastly pagan and anti-Christian. This is why Edward Watts, in his excellent recent analysis of the context and meaning of the closing of the Academy (see “Justinian, Malalas and the End of Athenian Philosophical Teaching in A.D. 529”, The Journal of Roman Studies, 94, 2004, pp. 168-182) notes that the former pagan patrons and protectors of the Academy were now long gone and the school was in the sights of the Christian political leaders in the city who still resented this pagan institution. Damascius had reinvigorated it and this is the likely context for a sequence of events that led to its closure. But untangling those events is rather more difficult than the glib summaries in secondary works would have us understand.
So, What Happened?
The popular works noted above make what happened seem rather straightforward: the wicked Christian emperor Justinian passed an edict declaring all teaching of philosophy to be forbidden and/or that the Academy in Athens was to close. However, no edict fitting this description survives to us in the Code of Justinian, the emperor’s compilation of late Roman law; which is extensive but not wholly comprehensive. So, rather than being based on some clear, surviving declaration, as the account by Jones tells it, the story of the closing of the Academy is, like so much ancient history, something pieced together from fragments of evidence. And the problem here is: they really do not fit together very neatly at all.
The most substantial of these fragments is found in the Chronicle of John Malalas (c. 491 – 578) which Watts renders as follows:
During the consulship of Decius, the emperor issued a decree and sent it to Athens ordering that no one should teach philosophy nor interpret astronomy nor in any city should there be lots cast using dice; for some who cast dice had been discovered in Byzantium indulging themselves in dreadful blasphemies. Their hands were cut off and they were paraded around on camels.
(Chronicle, XVIII.47)
This is the passage Jones quotes from in his account mentioned above, though a quick comparison shows that Jones has trimmed the passage considerably to get his quote (“the emperor issued a decree and sent it to Athens ordering that no-one should teach philosophy nor interpret the laws”). All of the rather odd context about lot casting with dice, dice-casters uttering blasphemies and then getting mutilated and paraded on camels have been removed by Jones, despite all of these things being, as Watts highlights (p. 172), grammatically and stylistically closely connected by Malalas to the decree about Athenians and teaching philosophy. So what is going on here? It will also be noted that Watts’ translation says the decree said the Athenians could not “teach philosophy nor interpret astronomy”, while Jones’ version says “teach philosophy nor interpret the laws”.
This last difference is the key to understanding the whole reference. Jones and most other writers are, directly or indirectly, working from the 1831 edition of Malalas by Ludwig Dindorf (loannis Malalae Chronographia. Accedunt Chilmeadi Hodiique Annotationes et Ric. Bentleii Epistola ad lo. Milliu) which gives the word as “laws”. But Watts notes this edition was based on a single seventeenth century transcription of one manuscript and when all other manuscripts are examined it is shown that the word should be “astronomy”. This makes more sense given that earlier scholars, using Dindorf’s edition had puzzled over the “laws” reference, given Athens had no law schools in this period.
So what appears to connect all the seemingly disparate elements in this passage is divination of the future. Casting dice to gain divine answers to questions about what is going to come to pass was a well-known pagan practice, as detailed in late Roman texts like the Sortes Sanctorum. So it makes sense that, in a crack down on pagan divinatory practices, Justinian would be moved to ban this ritual after a prominent case of it in Constantinople led to its practitioners, “indulging themselves in dreadful blasphemies”, being punished with public mutilation.
This is why the edict Malalas refers to says that no-one in any city could cast lots using dice. There were already laws against common gambling and they merely incurred fines, not mutilation. So this was clearly something considered much more dangerous and forbidden. And this is why, Watts argues, the Malalas reference notes the edict targeting Athens, teaching philosophy and interpreting astronomy. As noted above, the Neoplatonic Athenian Academy was renowned for its various mystical practices, including forms of divination. These almost certainly included astrology and, as the Malalas passage indicates, assessing the gods’ will via divinatory dice casting.
Watts’ analysis shows that it is very unlikely that whatever edict Malalas is referring to here targeted the Athenian Academy specifically. The cumbersome process by which these edicts were promulgated, interpreted and implemented meant it is much more likely that a general edict against divinatory dice casting, triggered by the cause célèbre in the capital that led to the mutilation and camel parade of the culprits, found its way to the provincial governor of Achaea and then on to the local officials in Athens. At each stage in this process, the edict was given a more local spin and application, with additions made for how it was to be applied. So it is most likely that the application to the Academy was not something mandated by the edict itself, but by the governor of Achaea or the local Christian city officials. As Watts notes, this should be seen as part of a culmination of “nearly a century of sporadic attempts by Athenian and Achaean Christians to attack the pagan intellectuals in their midst”.
But this does not seem to have been the end of the Academy. Watts generally accepts the detailed analysis of a range of evidence by earlier scholars, particularly Alan Cameron (see “The Last Days of the Academy of Athens”, Proceedings of the Cambridge Philological Society , 1969, New Series, No. 15, 195, 1969, pp. 7-29) that shows this edict most likely dated to 529 AD, but the actual closure of the Academy and the self-imposed exile of its seven philosophers did not happen till 531 AD. So while this prohibition would have curtailed the Academy, it does not seem to have killed it off.
Watts, like both Cameron and H.J. Blumenthal (see his “529 and Its Sequel: What Happened to the Academy?”, Byzantion, Vol. 48, No. 2, 1978, pp. 369-385), refers to two other laws that seem relevant here. He points out that we do not have the edict Malalas seems to be refer to, though he does not doubt it existed. But we do have two laws in the Justinian Code that shed some light on what happened next.
The first is Codex Justinianus 1.11.10 which, as Watts summarises it “exhorts pagans to be baptized, prohibits them from teaching and receiving a municipal salary, mandates the confiscation of property and exile of recalcitrant pagans, ordains that children of pagans shall be forcibly instructed in Christian teaching, [and] specifies penalties for those who accept baptism disingenuously” (Watts, p. 178). This is a very broad anti-pagan edict and it does not specifically target the teaching of philosophy per se, let alone target Athens or its Academy. Clearly it could be used to do so, but the fact that the Neoplatonic school in Alexandria continued to be led by the pagan Olympiodrus for several decades after this edict shows, as Watts has already detailed, that much depended on how this kind of law was interpreted, embroidered, applied and enforced locally. Or how it was not.
The same can be said for the second relevant law, which was likely passed at the same time or slightly earlier: Codex Justinianus 1.11.9. This one prevented pagans or their institutions from receiving funding bequests, substantially cutting off the source of sustaining income from patrons. Taken together, these two laws cut off public funding to pagan schools like the Academy and also greatly restricted private funding as well. The intention would have been very clear to the scholars of the Academy who, unlike Olympiodrus in Alexandria, were operating in a particularly hostile political environment. As Watts sums it up:
The prohibition of teaching was an institutional death blow, but one that would not be felt fully for many years. Indeed, it seems that the philosophers responded to this initial set of restrictions by keeping a low profile and waiting for circumstances to change. The severe personal and property
(Watts, p. 182)
restrictions issued in A.D. 531 were a different matter. …. [T]hese laws would not have permitted the philosophers to survive simply by keeping a low profile. Perhaps sensing the inevitability of this fate, they left Athens for Persia.
So while the story is far from simple and it is one that has to be pieced together from a number of pieces of evidence, none of which fit together neatly, the upshot is that while there was no direct edict closing the Academy, its overtly pagan and religious nature meant a ratcheting up of anti-pagan legislation and the hostility of its local political enemies, until it became increasingly unviable. Olympiodrus’ school did not have the same problems as the Academy and so continued operation, but the leading scholars from Athens took themselves into philosophical exile in Persia in 531.
Significance?
So the story is not as simple or as clear as the popular accounts would have us believe. Unsurprisingly, neither is its historical significance. As already detailed, the Academy that closed was not the one founded by Plato 900 years earlier. It is also clear that this school was far from the centre of rationalism, scepticism and science imagined by some who try to use this story as simplistic moral fable. The idea that this closure saw the end of the study of all ancient philosophy or, even more fancifully, all ancient learning is also a complete fantasy.
Despite Nixey’s wildly dramatic narrative and even Jones’ more judicious but no less misleading version, this event was not some death knell to Classical philosophy. Both mention Watts in their footnotes or endnotes and Jones also cites Cameron and Blumenthal. It has to be wondered how closely they read these scholars. Watts and Cameron in particular have little time for those who try to dress this up as the calamitous beginning of “a darkening age” and “the closing of the western mind” as per Nixey and Freeman. Christianity had come to terms with and began to absorb most of the useful material of the Classical intellectual inheritance centuries before these events and the philosophical and intellectual heritage of the pagan world continued to be taught in the schools of Alexandria, Antioch, Berytus, Nisibis and Constantinople long before and long after the last pagan scholars died. For details on this process of assimilation, accomodation and synthesis see “The Great Myths 8 – The Loss of Ancient Learning”. Almost a century after the closing of the Athenian Academy, the emperor Heraclius invited the Neoplatonist Stephanus of Alexandria, an heir of Olympiodrus’ school in that city, to Constantinople to hold the chair of philosophy at the capital’s Imperial Academy, one of 28 such positions. Jones’ dark muttering about a “creeping cultural dementia” are total nonsense, as is his implication that this learning only survived thanks to Nestorian and Muslim scholars. That Jones should be completely unaware of the the ongoing and uninterrupted role of Byzantine scholars in this is remarkable. That a writer who specialises in the medieval period should, in 2021, prop up the myth of “the Dark Ages” is both disturbing and depressing.
The popular accounts of the Athenian Academy like to emphasise its scholars “fleeing” to Persia. They usually place less emphasis on their return a few short years later. The source of all this is Agathias and his account is likely not wholly reliable. But it is clear that they continued to work on their return to the Roman Empire. And their work was, in key cases, not suppressed by Christian scholars but widely copied and utilised. We may not have much of the theurgic formulae and nonsensical incantations that made up most of the Academy’s activities, but Damascius’ commentaries on Plato were copied an studied and his fellow there-and-back-again exile to Persia, Simplicius of Cilicia, left us extensive commentaries on Aristotle. Both were used by medieval scholars as far away as Paris and Oxford in later centuries, thanks to their careful preservation and study by Byzantine scholars for centuries before that. So much for Jones’ solemn sermon about how “the scientific and rational insights of the ancient world were forgotten or suppressed in the west”. As ever, popular writing on this subject needs to be handled with extreme care. And its use by polemicists like Freeman, Nixey and Grayling can be readily ignored completely.
Further Reading
H.J. Blumenthal,“529 and Its Sequel: What Happened to the Academy?”, Byzantion, Vol. 48, No. 2, 1978, pp. 369-385.
Alan Cameron, “The Last Days of the Academy of Athens”, Proceedings of the Cambridge Philological Society , 1969, New Series, No. 15, 195, 1969, pp. 7-29.
E.R. Dodds, The Greeks and the Irrational, (Uni of California Press, 1951)
James Hannam, “Emperor Justinian’s Closure of the School of Athens”, Bede’s Library, 2008, revised 2013
Edward Watts, “Justinian, Malalas and the End of Athenian Philosophical Teaching in A.D. 529”, The Journal of Roman Studies, 94, 2004, pp. 168-182.
42 thoughts on “The Closing of the Athenian Academy”
Another great article, thanks Tim!
I always feel bashful to spot check when you’ve put so much work into your articles, but there’s a minor typo on the year mentioned in the second last paragraph:
“That a writer who specialises in the medieval period should, in 2121, prop up the myth of “the Dark Ages” is both disturbing and depressing.”
Er, yes. Fixed.
Maybe Tim was being prescient about scholarship 100 years from now…
I had much the same thought Peter haha!
And letting the dice guide the future
perhaps there’ll be a renewed fad for Luke Rhinehart then
Similarly, the Academy masters practiced various forms of divination (see below), magic and theurgy, using incantations and nonsense formulae designed to commune with the higher powers.
So proto-economists?
I had not realised how hostile the environment in Athens was. I had thought it was the funding issue.
As always Tim, an excellent piece of myth busting
Excellent synopsis of the issue, Mr. O’Neill. Did Jones correct himself when you pointed all this out to him on twitter, or was that on a separate topic?
As I recall, he acknowledged he overstated the whole “end of Classical learning” angle and was wrong to give justification for the “dark age” trope. Unfortunately his book is one of the few popular overviews of the Middle Ages available and thousands of readers will absorb his erroneous depiction for years to come.
Thank you Tim, for such a well thought-out article. It obvious that this took time to do good research; I like to learn from unbiased sources.
Tommaso d’Aquino, who wrote Summa Theologicae back in the 1200’s, was an advocate of the classical philosophers, even though they may be aethists or maybe even pagan. It his thoughtful articles that has led to my belief in God. Like Tommaso d’Aquino, thoughtful writing ought to be appreciated, no matter the source. I look forward to your next post.
Perhaps Im expecting too much, but I would have thought before you consider yourself or others consider you a ‘historian’ you should have at least a PhD in the subject?
I have a degree in mathematics and physics, but I view myself neither as a mathematician nor physicist.
Perhaps I’m expecting too much, But I would have thought before commenting here you could have bothered to read the “About the Author and an FAQ” link that’s at the top of every single page of this site. You may find the section titled “Are you a historian?” in the FAQ particularly relevant here. Give that a try.
I was actually referring to Dan Jones, the author of the book you were referencing. Sadly in English, unlike in French, ‘you’ can mean a personal you or you in general. I was referring to the latter. It seems his book relies on others’ false claims, thus showing no original research.
Okay, but that could have been made a bit more clear. Jones’ stuff is usually okay. But I think here he has let some prejudices get in the way of better analysis.
Next time replace “you” by “one”- ie “one consider oneself or other consider one …” if speaking in general. Alas many Dutchies too have taken over the confusing habit of using the personal “you”(je) when meaning the general “one”(men).
A truly bizarre comment if I may say so. A historian is a person who does history and is recognised as doing so by a jury of their peers and not someone who has a piece of paper issued by a university.
I know people with a PhD in history who are not historians and others without one who are very definitely historians, in fact I’m the son of one and the stepson of another.
BTW I don’t even possess a degree of any sort, do not consider myself a historian, but have several bona fide historical publications 🙃
P.S. despite his denials, I would personally categorise Tim as a historian.
As there is no legally empowered body that confers the privilege of being allowed to do history, the fact your publications made you a historian. IMO, the depth of your blog series on the rise of modern astronomy, with the research that goes into it and is referenced, would be enough to make you a historian on its own.
Aside from the FAQ answering this exact question, this is an odd question when at no point does Tim call himself a historian in the above, or even make any biographical claims at all. Do you go on every blog you read and ask for PhDs regardless of content? If not, why this one specifically?
On this very site; Tim O’Neill declares that he is NOT a historian.
That’s why defers to people who are historians instead.
Regarding the life of Pagans here and the systematic oppression they faced, I have a question?
Was there a mass persecution of Pagans, once Christendom took over or is this another myth, namely that multiple temples were destroyed and Christians massacred many of the Pagans, once they took Rome. Was the process from Paganism to Christendom forceful or mostly peaceful with little conflict as the other side would claim, or is this overcorrection?
That interested me more than Justinian’s closing of the academy tbh and I like an answer to my question.
Thanks for the article, was a good read.
The process was gradual and included incidents of violence but was largely an organic one. Christian polemicists of the fourth century were eager to note that, unlike their pagan opponents, they actually didn’t institute wholesale violent persecution when they became the dominant faith; pointing to this as a sign of the superiority of their ideas. There were incidences of the destruction of temples, but these tended to be in particular locations for local reasons, not Empire-wide campaigns of destruction. There was some level of legal pressure on pagans, particularly as Christians became the majority (i.e. from the later fourth century in the eastern Empire, but later in the west), but evidence of the enforcement of the threatened more violent punishments associated with these edicts is thin.
The process was more one of a slow but culminative retreat of paganism to the private sphere and the countryside (one of the possible etymologies of the word “pagan” means “rustic, country dweller”) and a gradual demographic shift as Christianity became the public and, slowly, the private practice of most of the population. Edward J. Watts’ excellent book The Final Pagan Generation: Rome’s Unexpected Path to Christianity (2015) and James J. O’Donnell’s Pagans: The End of Traditional Religion and the Rise of Christianity (2015) both trace the gradual and organic nature of this transition. They don’t avoid the elements of this transition that were sudden or violent, but they don’t overemphasise these aspects the way more lurid, unprofessional and overtly polemical popular books like Nixey’s do. I’d recommend both Watts and O’Donnell to anyone who wants to actually understand this process, as opposed to cherry-pick elements of it to make an ideological argument.
unlike their pagan opponents, they actually didn’t institute wholesale violent persecution when they became the dominant faith; pointing to this as a sign of the superiority of their ideas. There were incidences of the destruction of temples, but these tended to be in particular locations for local reasons, not Empire-wide campaigns of destruction
Aren’t there many like Candida Moss and such that regard that as a myth as well? The idea of official Empire wide violent persecution of Christians?
https://news.ku.edu/2015/03/19/ku-research-finds-most-early-christian-persecution-was-mobs-not-roman-leaders
How much of a difference is there between “official” persecution and allowing mobs to do things and officials merely allowing it to happen? Lynchings in the South weren’t Official persecution, right? Mobs did it and the police looked the other way.
There were incidences of the destruction of temples, but these tended to be in particular locations for local reasons, not Empire-wide campaigns of destruction.
And yet somehow, some mysterious way, almost all the temples were destroyed. How did it happen? Shrug, just happened.
Did the Christian authorities try to stop temples being destroyed?
What Moss notes, correctly, is the Christian mythology of centuries of official, mandated, Empire-wide persecutions is not accurate. This was Christians of the third and fourth centuries taking the actual official, mandated, Empire-wide persecutions of the mid to late third century and projecting those back onto previous periods. There were official, mandated, Empire-wide persecutions, but only at the end of the first three centuries of Christian history. Before that it was more local, low-level and sporadic.
Given that the evidence indicates that the mob actions were pretty few and rare, quite a bit of difference.
No, that’s not what happened. Only some were destroyed. Most fell into disrepair and got scavenged for building materials and many others were converted to other uses, such as homes, museums, churches or meeting halls. Much like many churches are across the western world today.
Yes, some did. Rather than making assumptions about this stuff, as you seem to be doing here, how about you actually do some reading on the matter? Luke A. Lavan and Michael Mulryan, (eds.) The Archaeology of Late Antique ‘Paganism’ (Brill, 2011) would be a good place to start, especially Lavan’s excellent introductory essay “The End of the Temples: Toward a New Narrative?”
> And yet somehow, some mysterious way, almost all the temples were destroyed. How did it happen? Shrug, just happened.
Keep in mind that we are talking about events from 1500 years ago. What happened to all the other buildings that were around back then? Almost all the churches that old are gone too. Most buildings don’t last for hundreds of years. Sooner or later there’s a fire, or an earthquake, or a war, or it just kinda starts leaking and crumbling and wouldn’t you rather tear that old thing down and put up a shiny new building instead? It doesn’t require any special explanation.
Thanks for this article Tim, I know it was in part prompted by my asking about it, even if that was only the straw that broke the camel’s back. So I very much appreciate it.
In summary then, it was anti-paganism, and specifically anti-pagan magic and religious practices, not anti-philosophy, that brought the academy to an end.
Now I must apologise as I do have an annoyingly long list of follow up questions, if you have the time and wherewithal to indulge me further.
1. Why did the Athenian philosophers flee the empire rather than go to, say Alexandria and work with Olympiodorus (I believe there is an extra ‘o’ in there)? 2a. And when they did return, how did they manage to keep working given the anti-pagan atmosphere? 2b. If when they returned they only studied Aristotle and Plato in a non-mystical, conventional way, does not this indicate they were probably doing this beforehand too? 3. I read you article on ‘The Loss of Ancient Learning’ and do have one question that I may aswell throw in here: you say that the loss of Greek literacy beginning during the crisis of the third century was a big contributing factor in the loss of classic works, but were there not already latin works to use? Had the Romans not translated them?
On a separate note, 4. have you drawn Jones’ attention to this article? 5. And to your knowledge has Nixey ever responded to your critique of her work, or that of others that have made similar critiques?
6a. On a separate, separate note, have you read Joseph Henrich’s Weirdest People in the World? It seems to me quite an original and thought-provoking investigation into the effects of Christianity and the Church’s policy on Western culture. 6b. If so, what did you think?
Thanks again! Take your time, I certainly did.
Chris
Yes.
We don’t know for certain. Though it seems they had heard that Khosrau I was some kind of Platonic philosopher king, though discovered this wasn’t really true when they got there.
It seems they didn’t return to Athens, though historians differ on that. The anti-pagan atmosphere was not consistent across the Empire and depended on whether the local authorities felt moved to enforce expressed Imperial policies.
Some. And they formed part of the corpus of learning that (mostly) survived the following centuries. For example, the works on logic that Boethius and Cassiodorus translated in the early sixth century formed what was later called the logica vetus (“the Old Logic”), as opposed to the newer logical works that became available in the twelfth century.
No. I made my problems with this section of his book clear to him in a Twitter exchange when it first came out. He conceded that he had mistrepresented things. I don’t see the benefit in labouring the point with him.
Not really. She complained that I was “stalking” her when I responded to just one of her tweets on the book. Then blocked me. Her husband accused me of being a Christian apologist and of harassing her even before I had responded to her that one time. Then blocked me. They seem a bit sensitive.
No, because I’ve seen critiques of it that show pretty clearly he ignores counterevidence that undermines his thesis and actually misrepresents history so that he can sustain his a priori conclusions. It sounds like crap.
Thanks for replying.
Were not Boethius and Cassiodorus translating Greek works *into* Latin? Had the Romans not already long ago translated all the major Greek philosophical works into Latin? Or did they simply learn Greek and read them that way? When Cicero, Seneca or Marcus Aurelius make reference to a classic work of philosophy for example, what language are they reading them in? I’m trying to understand why there wasn’t already a wide corpus of Latin language versions of classic Greek works by, say, 100 AD, which then could have been easily read by Latin-literate early Christians in the West.
As for Henrich, that is disappointing. I have not finished the book yet but will have to check out the criticisms when I do so.
Yes. You asked if there were Latin translations of Greek works. There were. Such as the ones made by Boethius and Cassiodorus.
The latter. There were Latin epitomes of Greek thought and encyclopaedias of knowledge that drew on Greek works, but few translations of Greek works. It was the decline in Greek literacy in the Late Roman Era that led to translations being necessary for the first time. This is why many Greek works were lost in the West.
Greek. If you were learned enough to be reading that kind of work you were also educated enough to be literate in Greek. This began to change in the third century.
See above.
Thanks. I think that fills in all the gaps. For anyone that is reading this and is curious, I did some searching and it became standard for Roman aristocrats to learn Greek from a young age during the late Republic and early Empire.
By the way, could you point me to those critiques you read which undermine Henrich’s hypothesis? I have seen some critical reviews around the web (newspapers, amazon, reddit etc) but nothing by historians with specialised knowledge of the subject. Thanks
The critiques I referred to where on Twitter and I didn’t save them, sorry. I can’t recall the scholars who wrote them, but they made it pretty clear Henrich took some medieval ideals that were not universally or consistently applied or held to in practice, assumed they were standard and widespread and then extrapolated from there. The results are gibberish as a result.
Some bad history in the future coming your way, Tom.
https://x.com/uberboyo/status/1706774941348053502?s=46
https://x.com/uberboyo/status/1706394269144027349?s=46
That person doesn’t seem to be an atheist, so their (spectacularly) bad history is not relevant to History for Atheists, sorry.
I wonder if the fact that the borders of the social construct known as Western Civilization geographically moves about has anything to do with the disinclination for some to acknowledge that there continued to be places of learning in the Byzantine Empire? Hypathia dies and the West contracts to exclude Alexandria. The academy in Athens closes and the Byzantine Empire ceases to be a part of Western Civilization. Their lack of thought about how we construct Western Civilization could also cause them to ignore the continuing contact there was during the early medieval period between the Byzantine Empire and places like Italy, which they controlled portions of, and England, where Greek speaking people travelled too.
Good point.
So the attack on “philosophy” was not an attack on philosophy?
The attack was on the public teaching by very specific ideological school of philosophy that was overtly anti-Christian. Not on philosophy generally. This should not be hard for you to grasp.
Excellent article, as always.
“It was the decline in Greek literacy in the Late Roman Era that led to translations being necessary for the first time.”
Would you please point me toward some good sources that go into some detail about the decline of Greek literacy in the West and the rise of Latin translations of Greek works in the West? Thank you.
Reynolds, L. D., and N. G. Wilson, Scribes and Scholars: A Guide to the Transmission of Greek and Latin Literature, (3rd ed. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1991).
Thanks!
Tim, will you ever do an article on the Condemnations of Paris?
A whole article? Unless there is an anti-theist saying something that would warrant that, probably not. But I’ve already covered it, for example here.